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		<title>By: Tech Skills for New Librarians &#38; Me (seeking advice) &#8211; Library Hat</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-246668</link>
		<dc:creator>Tech Skills for New Librarians &#38; Me (seeking advice) &#8211; Library Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 00:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Eric Lease Morgan, “Technical Skills of Librarianship,” LITA Blog. August 7, 2005. http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/ [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cosa vorrei che i miei studenti imparassero &#171; Frammenti Semantici</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cosa vorrei che i miei studenti imparassero &#171; Frammenti Semantici</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] un riassunto delle abilità tecniche necessarie in archivistica (vedi il post i Eric Lease Morgan Technical skills of librarianship e l&#8217;immagine [...]</description>
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		<title>By: betting</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-995</link>
		<dc:creator>betting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 14:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very negative John. I dont think this post is at all misleading for its readers, personally I found it very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very negative John. I dont think this post is at all misleading for its readers, personally I found it very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-931</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John Baker,

That&#039;s a way to rain on someone&#039;s parade. Thanks for reinforcing the attitudes &amp; roadblocks that prevent people from exploring topics like programming, server admin, and xml. We librarians use this stuff everyday and usually we have more specialized folks backing us up to help out with the difficult parts. I don&#039;t think this post is misleading readers at all. In fact, this post has been a good list for librarians and like minded people to run through and assess our strengths, weaknesses, &amp; what to read up on in the future as we move our collections from an analog to a digital world. As our systems demand more of this technology, we need to be just as aware of these tools as the programmers and administrators that we deal with every day. That way we can talk to our IT people and they don&#039;t turn into aloof know-it-alls that poo-pooh every suggestion that we might have &amp; try and scare us with the complexity and difficulty of the things that they have specialized training in. 

Best,

Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John Baker,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a way to rain on someone&#8217;s parade. Thanks for reinforcing the attitudes &amp; roadblocks that prevent people from exploring topics like programming, server admin, and xml. We librarians use this stuff everyday and usually we have more specialized folks backing us up to help out with the difficult parts. I don&#8217;t think this post is misleading readers at all. In fact, this post has been a good list for librarians and like minded people to run through and assess our strengths, weaknesses, &amp; what to read up on in the future as we move our collections from an analog to a digital world. As our systems demand more of this technology, we need to be just as aware of these tools as the programmers and administrators that we deal with every day. That way we can talk to our IT people and they don&#8217;t turn into aloof know-it-alls that poo-pooh every suggestion that we might have &amp; try and scare us with the complexity and difficulty of the things that they have specialized training in. </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Jason</p>
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		<title>By: john baker</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>john baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eric

im a software developer and former network administrator.  just wanted to say i think you&#039;re misleading your readers a bit.  

while the basic concepts of programming are not overly difficult to pick up, the nuts and bolts and quirks of a language are; programming requires constant education, (time consuming with books, expensive with courses and workshops) practice and learning.  programming is becoming more technical, not easier.

xml is a good skill to know, altho i might point out that the easy part to learn you refer to is not &quot;syntax&quot; but &quot;format&quot;.  format is the architecture, or specification, of the language; syntax refers to the specific wording of commands in each implementation of the format.

you&#039;re a bit off on databases as well.  a database is simply a collection of data and can just as easily be contained in flat files, spreadsheets, documents or relational databases.  a database management system (dbms) such as Access, MySql, Oracle, and Microsoft SqlServer provide ways to manipulate the data, including free text search (e.g., oracle, sqlserver).

finally, careful about saying that setting up a web server is really easy.  acquiring proper hardware with appropriate warranties and technical support, installing and configuring web server software, progeramming it for all those nice things you talk about, providing for security, patching, updating and upgrading, system redundancy, and data recovery and backup (to name a few little chores) require knowledge and experience to do well.

some people have a knack for these technical aspects, some dont.  better take that into account if you want to learn this stuff.

to get your feet wet, check out http://www.xmlsoftware.com/.

j</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eric</p>
<p>im a software developer and former network administrator.  just wanted to say i think you&#8217;re misleading your readers a bit.  </p>
<p>while the basic concepts of programming are not overly difficult to pick up, the nuts and bolts and quirks of a language are; programming requires constant education, (time consuming with books, expensive with courses and workshops) practice and learning.  programming is becoming more technical, not easier.</p>
<p>xml is a good skill to know, altho i might point out that the easy part to learn you refer to is not &#8220;syntax&#8221; but &#8220;format&#8221;.  format is the architecture, or specification, of the language; syntax refers to the specific wording of commands in each implementation of the format.</p>
<p>you&#8217;re a bit off on databases as well.  a database is simply a collection of data and can just as easily be contained in flat files, spreadsheets, documents or relational databases.  a database management system (dbms) such as Access, MySql, Oracle, and Microsoft SqlServer provide ways to manipulate the data, including free text search (e.g., oracle, sqlserver).</p>
<p>finally, careful about saying that setting up a web server is really easy.  acquiring proper hardware with appropriate warranties and technical support, installing and configuring web server software, progeramming it for all those nice things you talk about, providing for security, patching, updating and upgrading, system redundancy, and data recovery and backup (to name a few little chores) require knowledge and experience to do well.</p>
<p>some people have a knack for these technical aspects, some dont.  better take that into account if you want to learn this stuff.</p>
<p>to get your feet wet, check out <a href="http://www.xmlsoftware.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.xmlsoftware.com/</a>.</p>
<p>j</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your post on this topic is fantastic -- thank you. And you are right that there isn&#039;t enough emphasis on skills such as these in LIS graduate programs. Even in the more &quot;tech-oriented&quot; schools, the emphasis seems to be more on collaborative and other social tools and on the theory of computer technology than on the practical knowledge that you list, which the programs seem to expect you to acquire on your own time as an adjunct (when, as you suggest, this knowledge is in no way supplementary or secondary). 

I suppose the reality is that some people enter library school expecting the standard curriculum of cataloging, reference, and collection development (with some professional practice material tossed in) and may become petrified by the idea of learning anything related to technology. The fear is understandable, but the fear also puts you at a disadvantage. I will save this list and add as many as I am able of these abilities that I don&#039;t already have to my skill set. Thanks again.

On the same topic, here&#039;s another excellent recent post on acquiring tech skills:

http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2005/07/21/the-kept-up-distance-learning-librarian/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your post on this topic is fantastic &#8212; thank you. And you are right that there isn&#8217;t enough emphasis on skills such as these in LIS graduate programs. Even in the more &#8220;tech-oriented&#8221; schools, the emphasis seems to be more on collaborative and other social tools and on the theory of computer technology than on the practical knowledge that you list, which the programs seem to expect you to acquire on your own time as an adjunct (when, as you suggest, this knowledge is in no way supplementary or secondary). </p>
<p>I suppose the reality is that some people enter library school expecting the standard curriculum of cataloging, reference, and collection development (with some professional practice material tossed in) and may become petrified by the idea of learning anything related to technology. The fear is understandable, but the fear also puts you at a disadvantage. I will save this list and add as many as I am able of these abilities that I don&#8217;t already have to my skill set. Thanks again.</p>
<p>On the same topic, here&#8217;s another excellent recent post on acquiring tech skills:</p>
<p><a href="http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2005/07/21/the-kept-up-distance-learning-librarian/" rel="nofollow">http://meredith.wolfwater.com/wordpress/index.php/2005/07/21/the-kept-up-distance-learning-librarian/</a></p>
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		<title>By: JonathanNil</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-180</link>
		<dc:creator>JonathanNil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a current MLIS student, former web software engineer with a bachelor&#039;s degree in CS. I have some interest in pursuing a systems librarian career. So I am happy to see that I am quite familiar with all the technologies you list there (well, less so for indexing). 

But now I want some advice on: How do I find a job as a systems librarian?  I&#039;m not even sure where such jobs are listed---most of the general listings of librarian jobs I&#039;ve been looking at don&#039;t seem to have many systems librarian postings. 

What is the field like for systems librarians? What sort of libraries even hire systems librarians? Do public libraries have systems librarians? (No such postings can be found on most public library web pages, although they all seem to continually accept applications for user service librarians). What are systems librarian jobs actually like (I&#039;d guess they are not all the same). 

So... if you wrote a little post about that someday, or if you have any resources to suggest to me, they would be welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a current MLIS student, former web software engineer with a bachelor&#8217;s degree in CS. I have some interest in pursuing a systems librarian career. So I am happy to see that I am quite familiar with all the technologies you list there (well, less so for indexing). </p>
<p>But now I want some advice on: How do I find a job as a systems librarian?  I&#8217;m not even sure where such jobs are listed&#8212;most of the general listings of librarian jobs I&#8217;ve been looking at don&#8217;t seem to have many systems librarian postings. </p>
<p>What is the field like for systems librarians? What sort of libraries even hire systems librarians? Do public libraries have systems librarians? (No such postings can be found on most public library web pages, although they all seem to continually accept applications for user service librarians). What are systems librarian jobs actually like (I&#8217;d guess they are not all the same). </p>
<p>So&#8230; if you wrote a little post about that someday, or if you have any resources to suggest to me, they would be welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Beccaria</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Beccaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2005 16:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article which covers the most important bases. In libraryland these days there is much talk about collaborative web interfaces such as wikis, blogs and RSS. I expect that the use of these types of technologies will be growing in the future; they are more peripheral in terms of what your article is about, but worthy of a comment:) Thanks for the article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article which covers the most important bases. In libraryland these days there is much talk about collaborative web interfaces such as wikis, blogs and RSS. I expect that the use of these types of technologies will be growing in the future; they are more peripheral in terms of what your article is about, but worthy of a comment:) Thanks for the article!</p>
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		<title>By: Lissa Klein</title>
		<link>http://litablog.org/2005/08/technical-skills-of-librarianship/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Lissa Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2005 02:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I added lita blog to my home page because your article is interesting.  The RSS only shows a persons name and a date.... no title.  I will probably remove it because I do not have time to read everything which is why I use RSS.
...
On your article:  I got my MLS in 1973 and looked for a job for 2 years while doing volunteer work.  I never found one and ended up in data processing.  I have picked up all the skills you mentioned and you are correct they are not that difficult with the exception of Java which is not just one piece of technology but the tip of an enormous iceberg.
...
I have tried to get into the indexing business as my days in corporate America wind down but it is a very closed society.  
...
I would love to get in to special libraries again but there seems to be a shelf life on the MLS degree also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I added lita blog to my home page because your article is interesting.  The RSS only shows a persons name and a date&#8230;. no title.  I will probably remove it because I do not have time to read everything which is why I use RSS.<br />
&#8230;<br />
On your article:  I got my MLS in 1973 and looked for a job for 2 years while doing volunteer work.  I never found one and ended up in data processing.  I have picked up all the skills you mentioned and you are correct they are not that difficult with the exception of Java which is not just one piece of technology but the tip of an enormous iceberg.<br />
&#8230;<br />
I have tried to get into the indexing business as my days in corporate America wind down but it is a very closed society.<br />
&#8230;<br />
I would love to get in to special libraries again but there seems to be a shelf life on the MLS degree also.</p>
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